3: Data Ownership Is a Lie

“You’ll get all that for free if you build it right.”

Pablo & Gigi try to stop giggling.

In this dialogue:

• 01: Start Ugly
• 02: There is No Global
• Concept of ownership & “Read, Write, Own”
• Shamir Secret Sharing and Timelocks
• “No amount of violence will ever solve a math problem.”
• You can’t prove deletion of a key (or anything, really); best you can do is “burn” bitcoin
• Data is information, which behaves like an idea (not like an apple)
• “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” – https://dergigi.com/threads/memes-vs-the-world
• Why the Pubky architecture isn’t great
• Cashu
• Nutzaps: NIP-60 / NIP-61
• How nutzaps fix fake zaps on zaplife.lol
• “Ecash fixes HTTP 402”
• “[Bitcoin [and nostr]] take advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle.” –Satoshi Nakamoto
• Discovery with NIP-89
• #RunDVM with NIP-90
• Why micropayments can’t work on credit rails, and how bitcoin is the rediscovery of money.
• Putting payments into blossom
• “Money is essen­tially a tool to keep track of who owes what to whom. Broadly speaking, every­thing we have used as money up to now falls into two categories: physical artifacts and infor­ma­tional lists. Or, to use more common parlance: tokens and ledgers.”
• “maximum utility in the world of Bitcoin entails the adoption of maximum responsibility.”
• Complexity of Lightning vs the simplicity of eCash
• Amber and Citrine
• How Pablo became the BIS
• 12 words in your head can literally save your life
• The in-between of custodial and non-custodial in a multi-mint world
• Nutzaps integrated in chachi.chat
• The intermediacy of nostr is magic
• In nostr you’ll get a lot for free IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT
• “Free Speech platforms cannot exist; if there is a ‘deplatform’ button, the button will be pressed.”
• “Neither nostalgia nor utopia.”
• Solutions that make stuff worse over time vs solutions that make stuff better over time.
• #asknostr on passkeys, and why we think they’ll make things worse over time.
• Authentication vs identity: “identification asks, authentication proves”
• You are not your name and photo; identity is prismatic
• (m00t’s talk on it at web summit 2011)
• Starbug from CCC pwning TouchID biometrics from a high-res photo (article)
• Key rotation and (American) HODL
• Social recovery
• Multi-sig for nostr with FROSTR

Links & References:

• Nostr Protocol Repository: https://github.com/nostr-protocol
• Cashu (e-cash): https://github.com/cashubtc
• NIP-60 (Nutzaps): https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/60.md
• NIP-89 (Service Discovery) & NIP-90 (DVMs) – upcoming proposals: https://nips.nostr.com/89 & https://nips.nostr.com/90

Recorded at 884,723.